Well I game more, and now i did a little more research on the xeon e3110, which is same as the e8400 but cheaper. Has same cache, same 45nm technology, same OC potential, same 1333mhz fsb, same stock 3.0ghz speed, an 65w. There is no reason nobody should get this if they want the e8400. On newegg, so far only two people have given reports, both 5 stars, and its already out of stock. Ebay sells them for 229.9$ + 14$ shipping. Im sure you can find it on other sites to.